. >> i would argue that someone like michael bloomberg, who is totally in favor of gun control, very strong on it, and could actually write the checks and do this, if he did it, counter the nra mfs nra's money, i'm not sure it would make a difference because it has to come from the country as a whole. there has to be leadership at the top, and also in the red states where democrats are running, they're scared. it can't all come from the mayor and governor of new york, from dianne feinstein who is california. it's going to have to come from the rest of the country. >> when you see 2,200 guns can remain legal in the proposal, that's not enough? >> it's never enough. there's no logic to it. it's a credo and it's going to take, i feel, i feel as strongly as you do, but it's going to take a long time to marshal that leadership, marshal that ground roots support for it. as you can see from the two young women you had on the air tonight, young people are poised to embrace this as old people. >> i agree. quick question on hillary clinton, how do you think she fared after the benghazi intervi